{"id":17,"date":"2005-05-12T18:34:37","date_gmt":"2005-05-13T01:34:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.someareboojums.org\/blog\/?p=17"},"modified":"2005-05-14T09:27:22","modified_gmt":"2005-05-14T16:27:22","slug":"mulvaney-et-al-on-h2so4-inclusions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.somesnarksareboojums.org\/blog\/2005\/05\/12\/mulvaney-et-al-on-h2so4-inclusions\/","title":{"rendered":"Mulvaney <i>et al.<\/i> on H<sub>2<\/sub>SO<sub>4<\/sub> inclusions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Throughout Jaworowski&#8217;s statement, his primary rhetorical tactic is to cite a good paper, by reputable researchers<super>[1]<\/super>, in a way that does nothing but obscure the issue.  One key element of this smokescreen is his assertion that &#8220;[I]ce cores do not fulfill the essential closed system criteria.  One of these is a lack of liquid water in ice, which could dramatically change the chemical composition [of] the air bubbles trapped between the ice crystals.&#8221;<br \/>\nJaworowski wants to imply that CO<sub>2<\/sub> was dissolved in liquid water within the ice core under pressure, then remained in solution while the measurements were made, thus giving falsely low measured concentrations at increasing depths.  He cites Mulvaney <em>et al.<\/em> as evidence that &#8220;even the coldest Antarctic ice &#8230; contains liquid water.&#8221;  Though he cites the paper, he doesn&#8217;t say exactly <em>how<\/em> it supports his position.  If we look at the paper, we can see the reason for his silence.<br \/>\nMulvaney, Wolff and Oates were reporting on concentrations of sulfuric<super>[2]<\/super> acid in <i>extremely<\/i> tiny volumes at the boundaries between ice crystals.<br \/>\nHere&#8217;s a picture of the ice sample, showing the grain boundaries:<br \/>\n<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.someareboojums.org\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/mulvaney_fig_1_sample.jpeg\" width=\"520\" height=\"512\" alt=\"\" \/><br \/>\nNote (from the scale bar at the bottom) that the grains range from about 2 to 3 mm across.<br \/>\nNow here&#8217;s a picture of the triple junction where the sulfuric acid was found:<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.someareboojums.org\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/mulvaney_fig_1.jpeg\" width=\"508\" height=\"596\" alt=\"\" \/><br \/>\nThe volume in question is, at the most, a few micrometers on a side (see the scale bar).<br \/>\nCalculation of what fraction of the total volume could possibly have been represented by these triple junctions is left as an exercise for the reader.<br \/>\nSo <i>this<\/i> is where Jaworowski was hiding the extra CO<sub>2<\/sub>?<\/p>\n<p>[1]  Robert Mulvaney has a very interesting short piece titled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciamdigital.com\/browse.cfm?sequencenameCHAR=item2&#038;methodnameCHAR=resource_getitembrowse&#038;interfacenameCHAR=browse.cfm&#038;ISSUEID_CHAR=B38CE21A-2B35-221B-67096ED4BD9F95F7&#038;ARTICLEID_CHAR=B3B399E7-2B35-221B-619EC994F2E40974&#038;sc=I100322\">How are past temperatures determined from an ice core&#8221;<\/a> in the June 2005 <em>Scientific American.<\/em><br \/>\n[2]  IUPAC has it &#8220;sulfuric&#8221;, so that&#8217;s the way I&#8217;ll spell it.  My apologies to readers in the Commonwealth.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Throughout Jaworowski&#8217;s statement, his primary rhetorical tactic is to cite a good paper, by reputable researchers[1], in a way that does nothing but obscure the issue. One key element of this smokescreen is his assertion that &#8220;[I]ce cores do not fulfill the essential closed system criteria. One of these is a lack of liquid water&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.somesnarksareboojums.org\/blog\/2005\/05\/12\/mulvaney-et-al-on-h2so4-inclusions\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Mulvaney <i>et al.<\/i> on H<sub>2<\/sub>SO<sub>4<\/sub> inclusions<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-17","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","entry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.somesnarksareboojums.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.somesnarksareboojums.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.somesnarksareboojums.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.somesnarksareboojums.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.somesnarksareboojums.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=17"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.somesnarksareboojums.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.somesnarksareboojums.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=17"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.somesnarksareboojums.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=17"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.somesnarksareboojums.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=17"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}